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the Void is not nothingness
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Don't blow it people - freedom and creativity come with the obligation to not destroy or injure other beings - do your positive thing - no negatives
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It was a test, people. It was only a test. Had this been an actual bureaucracy, you would have been strip-searched and instructed to tune to the Disney Channel.
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And someone would be trying to sell you a coke.
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These are by far the best comments so far - with the strip search one causing me to snort part of my Budweiser!
Also freedom and creativity do always come with some responsiblilty and just plain concern for our fellow human being. My friend, Solarx is there and maybe someday I will get to go too.
Enjoy the freedom folks for we lose some of it out here everyday single day. grnch
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Hmmm, what do you have if you have a positive without a negative? No Current!
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the coup attempt has failed. I repeat, the coup attempt has failed. Please return to your homes. Resume normal consumption. Thank you, and have a nice day.
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hey, just wait for Sunday. Black Rock City is still the only place in the world i've been that not only allows expression and artistic freedom, but encourages it. then they ask you to blow it up, if you would be so kind. "Here you go, son, throw some gas on that." Anyone out there got a light?
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I heard Janet Reno will be there this year....
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Selling won't get you nothin--it's all about
B A R T E R I N G
and
Sharing,
Coke Head.
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can we burn her too?
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oh boo-hoo
the world is not so ideologically pure as me
oh boo-hoo
Listen, 20k people is alot
and my understanding of anthropology says that once you get a couple thou people in one place, the state evolves as a mechanism for making sure everydoy gets a parking space. and also, oh boo-hoo, we gotta get along with the straights
i can write no more for weeping
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Huh?
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if 5% of the total general population can be considered "assholes," then the 1000 or so assholes have to be controlled to let the other 19000 of us have a good time. minimal structure does not equal EVIL BUREAUCRACY!
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I'm not sure that I get this attiude. This was my first BurningMan. I read the Survival Guide shortly after being talked into buying a ticket in mid-April. The fact that this project had rules and requests and guidelines didn't surprise me at all.
The only thing that kinda got to me was the rather snotty attiutude towards newbies in Piss Clear, which seemed to feel that if you hadn't gone 3+ times and weren't from San Francisco, you just weren't going to "get it." *shrug* I like the paper -- it was very informative -- but I found it far more insulting than the signs I passed coming into the city.
Also, consider -- were those signs really for you, or were they for the newer people who hadn't actually read up on BurningMan? A lot of what was stated seemed elementary to me, but might not have been for 1st timers who decided to just head over at the last minute.
It's a big project, and it needs to inform as many people as possible as often as possible as to what it's about. There were assholes at BurningMan, sure, but consider how much good the various reminders may have done for those who hadn't a clue about what they were getting themselves into.
The signs were no more bossy than the website or mailed Survival Guide, and were often a lot more amusing, IMHO.
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Good point. But I think a partial justification for the relentless criticism the Burning Man organization receives is something like the old expression "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance". Maybe the only way to keep this whole thing pure is to constantly criticize it?
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This is not a Test. This is not a Test. The Threat of Anarchy called burningman has been neutralized. The Threat has been neautralized. Please move along there is nothing to see here. You may now resume you dull, morose little lives. Thank You. "The Bureaucracy" Making things work for you!
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"Sign. Sign.
Everywhere a Sign.
Breakin' up the scenery.
Chaffin' my mind!
'DO THIS.'
'DON'T DO THAT!'
Can't you read the sign?"
KMK
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Maybe the signs were a prank art project...maybe all signs really are...especially that Go Children Slow one...what's up with that.
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As far as the signs, If the shoe fits wear it!
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Can't you go out there with an open mind and stop bitching about everything. You are so damn negative. I'm sure everything was done for the greater purpuse of the collectif. Stop being selfish!
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NO one is asking you to "blow things up, if you would be so kind". Unfortunately some people seem to think they can burn anything they want, and this year on SUnday many art installaions were vandalized and destroyed by just such assholes. FOr the millionth time - DO NOT BURN ANYONE ELSE"S ART!!! Just what is it about this that you don't understand?????
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fucken waaaaaaaaa
you candy ass prick
your mommy is not at burning man
you must have looked like one of those stupid fucks who have to be told that littering is bad
especialy in black rock city
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Thank you for your comments. Your comments are important to us. If you have any further questions please call out toll-free hotline. Enclosed is our latest brochure.
Thank you, and have a nice day.
Sincerely,
The Burning Man Corporation
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Thank you for your comments. Your comments are important to us. If you have any further questions please call our toll-free hotline. Enclosed is our latest brochure.
Thank you, and have a nice day.
Sincerely,
The Burning Man Corporation
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I want an oompa loompa now daddy. VS
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If you say something about your burning man experience was bad or good, are you saying that the person responsible for that badness or goodness ought to change something? Who is responsible for your experience, and who has to change it?
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I dont think there is a boss, old or new. I think thats kind of the point. I honestly believe theres only a boss if you want one, or you're doing something genuinely dangerous, or theres a naive person convinced they can power trip over you ( just because they went through an orientation ) who you ought to bring some reality to. You're allowed to talk back to Rangers! Theyre *mediators*. Greeter bounciness is not part of a master plan to ease bad feelings over the evil parts of BMan. They're genuinely happy friendly people eager to be warm and helpful. If anything the warmth is to counteract the effects of driving all night or all week to get there. " Hey! You made it!"
The complaint about the gate bossiness could be useful feedback to guide someone. We're all going to sympathise because we like your site and we can relate, but have you told anyone who you might meet next year in the same job, who would be affected by your remarks and behave differently? What did the people who ordered you around learn from you going along with it to keep things moving?
No offense meant by any of this. I thought it might be a helpful perspective. Whenever I get to burning man, I am always very tired and I get bossed around or insulted by whoever ( even people in other camps etc ) because I am vulnerable and confused and a bit scared. On any other day I'd tell them to get over themselves, but on that first day I am always insecure, frazzled, and vulnerable to percieved authority. I dont remember yet that this isnt Nevada, this isnt America, its Black Rock City and just like the (b)one trees and the stars, I have a *right* to be here. Next year, I'm going to try not to forget!
love, Jack
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I dont think there is a boss, old or new. I think thats kind of the point. I honestly believe theres only a boss if you want one, or you're doing something genuinely dangerous, or theres a naive person convinced they can power trip over you ( just because they went through an orientation ) who you ought to bring some reality to. You're allowed to talk back to Rangers! Theyre *mediators*. Greeter bounciness is not part of a master plan to ease bad feelings over the evil parts of BMan. They're genuinely happy friendly people eager to be warm and helpful. If anything the warmth is to counteract the effects of driving all night or all week to get there. " Hey! You made it!"
The complaint about the gate bossiness could be useful feedback to guide someone. We're all going to sympathise because we like your site and we can relate, but have you told anyone who you might meet next year in the same job, who would be affected by your remarks and behave differently? What did the people who ordered you around learn from you going along with it to keep things moving?
No offense meant by any of this. I thought it might be a helpful perspective. Whenever I get to burning man, I am always very tired and I get bossed around or insulted by whoever ( even people in other camps etc ) because I am confused and disoriented. Another day I'd tell them to get over themselves, but on that first day I am always insecure, vulnerable to percieved authority. I dont yet remember that this isnt Nevada, this isnt America, its Black Rock City and just like the (b)one trees and the stars, I have a *right* to be here. Next year, I'm going to try not to forget!
love, Jack
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Constant criticism by itself might be a virtue, if it really was a faceless "burning man corporation" serving a product to us all. But its just people like you and me, working in most cases for nothing, working hard, and some of the most important jobs are the most thankless. Who in life lacks a nag or a criticiser, and what good does that do anyone whos really trying hard to do something wonderful? If you had a kickass website that was amazing ( like this one is, it rocks! ) would you want people to emphasise the negative, and call it keeping you pure? I think it is good to make an effort to praise as well as criticise in a balanced way.
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Accept all, expect miracles.
Salt Man
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Power games at the gate?
Have you EVER tried to organize something larger than a potluck? Seriously... if it sucks so bad, why go?
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The really funny thing about all of these supposed anarchists is that this level of bitching could only originate from minds trained to expect that they will find a customer service department no matter where they might be on earth.
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Yeah! All those fuckin' asshole volunters who spent countless hours baking in those little sheds sure are jerks expectin' that they can tell me how ta live my life! Can't they see that I my very own self knows how to find a parking spot? They're not the boss of me!
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Not burning art or otherwise defacing it is something the organization is pissed about too and really hopes not to see any more. It's so ridiculous.
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hmm...looks like you folks are having a hard time finding that Perfect World that for some darn reason you're sure exists SOMEWHERE.
do share constructive comments to make the event more enjoyable, certainly, but above all, live life as it is, not as you think it should be. and drink a lot of beer and blow shit up, too. just share the beer and ask permission first. didn't we go over this stuff in kindergarten?
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artistic confron
tation weeweepoopoo
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